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	<title>Comments on: dante said it best.. wait, maybe it was tom joad</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My usual routine for getting through books is to run the gauntlet. In some cases, the experience is far less than painful and I love it, actually that happens more often than any other outcome.

Then there are the cases where I begin a book and find myself in a dank swamp, unable to really enjoy what I'm reading - it becomes a chore and I dread having to pick up the text to read. When I realize that I am fearing my current reading, then that is the instant at which I stop reading that particular book.

For me, Ellison's writing in &lt;em&gt;Invisible Man&lt;/em&gt; was just too trite and overcooked for me to enjoy; I truly was having a hard time with his never-ending metaphors. The plot certainly had potential, but the rest of the novel was pulling me down into a pitied reader.

I'll step away from it for a few months, and then try again - promise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My usual routine for getting through books is to run the gauntlet. In some cases, the experience is far less than painful and I love it, actually that happens more often than any other outcome.</p>
<p>Then there are the cases where I begin a book and find myself in a dank swamp, unable to really enjoy what I&#8217;m reading - it becomes a chore and I dread having to pick up the text to read. When I realize that I am fearing my current reading, then that is the instant at which I stop reading that particular book.</p>
<p>For me, Ellison&#8217;s writing in <em>Invisible Man</em> was just too trite and overcooked for me to enjoy; I truly was having a hard time with his never-ending metaphors. The plot certainly had potential, but the rest of the novel was pulling me down into a pitied reader.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll step away from it for a few months, and then try again - promise.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 22:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, don't ask me how I got here, it's far too long a story, but how can you say that about Invisible Man and exalt Fast Food Nation and the Inferno with the other? I like Dante as much as the next guy — epic poetry has it's own je ne sais quoi — and far left ing literature is a treat for all of us, but complicated and inspired they are not. Ellison is hardly the best example of "banal and manufactured" prose.

Now, not all books are for everyone, but I strongly suggest you try to read it again with a more open mind; not that you'll turn out liking the style, but maybe you can get something from the book in spite of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, don&#8217;t ask me how I got here, it&#8217;s far too long a story, but how can you say that about Invisible Man and exalt Fast Food Nation and the Inferno with the other? I like Dante as much as the next guy — epic poetry has it&#8217;s own je ne sais quoi — and far left ing literature is a treat for all of us, but complicated and inspired they are not. Ellison is hardly the best example of &#8220;banal and manufactured&#8221; prose.</p>
<p>Now, not all books are for everyone, but I strongly suggest you try to read it again with a more open mind; not that you&#8217;ll turn out liking the style, but maybe you can get something from the book in spite of it.</p>
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		<title>By: abigail</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only reference i have [and will ever ever need] is rage against the machine's 'ghost of tom joad.' 

for reals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only reference i have [and will ever ever need] is rage against the machine&#8217;s &#8216;ghost of tom joad.&#8217; </p>
<p>for reals.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 21:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize; yes, the boy was autistic. But even still, from his perspective, as the novel is written in, everything makes absolute sense - I would dare say that the world didn't fit his unrealistically realistic views.

It's a good book, regardless.

And I already bought &lt;em&gt;Fountainhead&lt;/em&gt;; it is only waiting for me to read it. If you don't want to reread &lt;em&gt;Grapes&lt;/em&gt; then you don't have to, but one day you'll look back on your youth and wish you had gleaned some reference or information from that book. I'm saying this from experience... because I am an old man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize; yes, the boy was autistic. But even still, from his perspective, as the novel is written in, everything makes absolute sense - I would dare say that the world didn&#8217;t fit his unrealistically realistic views.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good book, regardless.</p>
<p>And I already bought <em>Fountainhead</em>; it is only waiting for me to read it. If you don&#8217;t want to reread <em>Grapes</em> then you don&#8217;t have to, but one day you&#8217;ll look back on your youth and wish you had gleaned some reference or information from that book. I&#8217;m saying this from experience&#8230; because I am an old man.</p>
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		<title>By: abigail</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 15:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the boy in curious incident was autistic i thought. 


and you will never convince me to reread grapes of wrath. ever.
you should check out some ayn rand. the fountainhead = 700pages of awesome.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the boy in curious incident was autistic i thought. </p>
<p>and you will never convince me to reread grapes of wrath. ever.<br />
you should check out some ayn rand. the fountainhead = 700pages of awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 02:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Camden - the boy in &lt;em&gt;Curious Incident&lt;/em&gt; had nothing wrong with him per se, but rather the world didn't fit him. I'm not sure if that is a coherent way of putting it, but this kid just didn't belong in this world. He was too smart, too observant, too unorthodoxed from contemporaries to fit into any social strata.

But I shouldn't ruin the book, it's too good; must read it for yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Camden - the boy in <em>Curious Incident</em> had nothing wrong with him per se, but rather the world didn&#8217;t fit him. I&#8217;m not sure if that is a coherent way of putting it, but this kid just didn&#8217;t belong in this world. He was too smart, too observant, too unorthodoxed from contemporaries to fit into any social strata.</p>
<p>But I shouldn&#8217;t ruin the book, it&#8217;s too good; must read it for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've looked and looked for a decent, used copy of &lt;em&gt;East of Eden&lt;/em&gt; but have continually come up short. I will certainly buy one when I can find it. Currently, there are five unread books aching to get my passionate attention (I loves me a sexy book) and I'd like to cover them before anything else.

Why the Oprah edition? The Oprah Book Club edition doesn't, frankly, make me pursue the novel any more than the regular, unabridged version would. Remember, now, I'm cheap ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve looked and looked for a decent, used copy of <em>East of Eden</em> but have continually come up short. I will certainly buy one when I can find it. Currently, there are five unread books aching to get my passionate attention (I loves me a sexy book) and I&#8217;d like to cover them before anything else.</p>
<p>Why the Oprah edition? The Oprah Book Club edition doesn&#8217;t, frankly, make me pursue the novel any more than the regular, unabridged version would. Remember, now, I&#8217;m cheap <img src='http://ryanharne.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rianna</title>
		<link>http://ryanharne.com/2005/04/10/dante-said-it-best-wait-maybe-it-was-tom-joad/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>Rianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo Bruce, and HAVE echoed Bruce, in our conversations concerning this book choice. :) 'East of Eden' is nothing short of amazing.  GO.GET.IT. But get the pretty Oprah Book Club edition, because it's worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo Bruce, and HAVE echoed Bruce, in our conversations concerning this book choice. <img src='http://ryanharne.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8216;East of Eden&#8217; is nothing short of amazing.  GO.GET.IT. But get the pretty Oprah Book Club edition, because it&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Camden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Camden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 00:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan,

If you could add your own thinkableness to this question, please do:  In your own opinion, what do you think was wrong with the boy in that story?, (like, what kind of disability, syndrome, or whatever)...  Your opinionableness = welcomeness! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>If you could add your own thinkableness to this question, please do:  In your own opinion, what do you think was wrong with the boy in that story?, (like, what kind of disability, syndrome, or whatever)&#8230;  Your opinionableness = welcomeness! <img src='http://ryanharne.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Werner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Werner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2005 21:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan!

You must read, without delay, East of Eden from Steinbeck. If you liked Grapes of Wrath even sorta, East of Eden is Steinbeck's masterpiece, many critics agree. Grapes is sorta history too, which is why it's so popular in high school, and was written as more one of those good liberal PBS Frontline-esqe reports on the horror of the Western drought that finally made congress act, but East of Eden will make you at once angry, sad, and reflective. I can never read the book again because of it's ending, which stuck with me for days. Especially with your current issues in life, this book has you as a main character (see if you can figure out who).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan!</p>
<p>You must read, without delay, East of Eden from Steinbeck. If you liked Grapes of Wrath even sorta, East of Eden is Steinbeck&#8217;s masterpiece, many critics agree. Grapes is sorta history too, which is why it&#8217;s so popular in high school, and was written as more one of those good liberal PBS Frontline-esqe reports on the horror of the Western drought that finally made congress act, but East of Eden will make you at once angry, sad, and reflective. I can never read the book again because of it&#8217;s ending, which stuck with me for days. Especially with your current issues in life, this book has you as a main character (see if you can figure out who).</p>
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